We first met on Instagram Then we met in Amsterdam and Berlin. We are inspired by each other’s work. We are working together in a distance. During drawing and working in my studio music and sounds are important. The layers of sound in the music from Atsuko Hatano are very inspiring for me. Atsuko uses the moving and breathing of organism clusters for making music from a micro point or macro point of view. Listening to the music which one is growing and changing in a naturale but a also an alarming way brings the colors, movements and meaning in each drawing. We use a different medium but the source and the way of thinking about our environment is the same.